You might be listening to the Every day Roundup right here as a part of the Actuality. Steve Podcast, I’m your host actuality. Steve, thanks all for tuning in on this. What day is it? Wednesday, geez. Lastly, as you may hear, I’m again at residence. This doesn’t sound like I’m recording into my telephone. Not less than it shouldn’t, and at the moment bought a few ultimate ideas on the Bachelor finale, however at the moment goes to be an interview.
With the topic of the Joe Schmo present that aired its finale final night time on TBS. His title is Ben Rizone. Should you watched the present, you already know who I’m speaking about. We bought an interview with Ben arising at the moment on the day by day roundup, and we are going to get to all that momentarily. This podcast dropped at you by Fairly Litter Spring is within the air.
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You can obtain it there. They aired the finale final night time. And actually for a present like this, which is principally a prank plate on anyone, you’re simply ready for that ultimate response and. Man, Ben couldn’t have been a greater trooper for all the things. It was simply, it was a really optimistic ending with a lot negativity occurring on social media and the world for that matter.
It was simply actually cool to look at an ending to the present like this and to see, yeah, this man didn’t lose it, isn’t mad at anyone. And right here he’s, what, virtually three years faraway from filming that present. You’ll hear him on at the moment’s podcast simply. Only a tremendous good man that I feel you’ll, I feel, I feel when you hear this interview, you’ll understand why they did choose him to be the topic of the present.
Simply appears to be very simply take heed to the interview. I do wanna say a pair issues about Grant and Juliana as I gathered my ideas flying residence yesterday and looking out throughout social media. There have been, there have been a pair issues that I needed to level out. Primary. As is the case each season when it comes all the way down to social media stuff.
Keep in mind, I don’t know, a number of weeks in the past, a month in the past, Laia went on that influencer journey with a bunch of former alumni, Gabby l Nikki. She went with Katie Greater charity, Lawson child Jess. Are we nonetheless calling her child Jess, by the best way? Her title’s Jessica Gerard. Jess Gerard, however I assume all people is aware of Rose Child, Jess, a pair different folks, I feel.
I feel, I feel possibly Mercedes was on that journey as properly. However on the time, I imply, look, I knew the ending of filming Grant selected Juliana. However clearly the query grew to become, did he make a change? Did he change it to Latia? After which when folks noticed Latia on these influencer journeys with the opposite girls, some folks have been satisfied, oh my gosh, this completely means she’s the ultimate one.
I checked out it utterly reverse. To me that was much more affirmation that Grant wasn’t with Latia, as a result of I don’t suppose there’s any means the present would’ve let Latia hang around with so many former alumni and be so public about it. You can hang around with former alumni, however you gotta maintain it form of on the dl.
And Latia was simply on the market. Each single lady in that celebration posted stuff on their social media. Ariel was in it as properly. She was on the, after the funnel rose. I simply, to me. That was simply, that was simply extra affirmation that he didn’t select Latia, nor was he with Latia. However once more, if it, if one particular person thinks it could possibly be one thing else, then which means it’s not definitive.
One thing on social media shouldn’t be 100% definitive, and that’s at all times what I’ve tried to inform folks. And, however for me, yeah, that was, that was. One thing that basically pointed within the course of Yeah, she’s positively not with Grant. ’trigger the present would by no means let, I imply simply suppose again. Simply suppose again to each winner ever on the present of the winner of the bachelor season, have you ever ever seen them hanging out with girls from different seasons and doing an influencer journey whereas the episodes have been airing?
I’ll provide you with until the top of time to reply that query as a result of the reply’s no. It hasn’t occurred. Any person may need run into anyone someplace. Any person may need seen anyone out someplace and brought an image. This was a totally deliberate. Let’s invite Latia, a woman who’s nonetheless on the present proper now with a bunch of us alumni.
It was simply, it, it, it screamed. Now clearly each single lady on that journey was properly conscious of what the ending of the present was. There’s no means they didn’t discuss it. And most of these girls have been on the, after the funnel rose on Monday night time supporting Latia. However I feel it’s potential to help Latia help what she needed to say to Grant.
The day of the ultimate row ceremony and what she mentioned on stage on Monday night time, and it’s additionally potential to help Grant and Juliana as they navigate their relationship going ahead. You don’t have to decide on sides, which I feel I noticed quite a lot of yesterday. Everybody’s like, why do we’ve got to, you already know, we’re so unhappy for Latia.
Why can’t she be our bachelorette? Ugh, grant did her so flawed. However then you definitely noticed Grant and Juliana’s engagement and it appeared like a pleasant engagement. They appear actually into one another. He’s transferring to Boston for her for at the very least a yr, I assume. Like why can’t there simply be two truths in all this Latia having her fact in saying what she mentioned to Grant and Grant, and Juliana additionally being very joyful.
It doesn’t imply Grant and Juliana must be depressing due to the issues that he apparently mentioned to Latia. Again at episode two and again on the night time earlier than the ultimate Rose ceremony day. So that’s one thing that I needed to level out. The opposite factor was Grant and Juliana made the media rounds yesterday, did quite a lot of interviews, and there’s one, most of ’em, they mentioned the identical factor in all of them.
They didn’t give any solutions that have been like, oh my gosh, did you see this? Nonetheless, there was one reply that did stick out to me and it’s nothing prefer it was so like. Eye popping, however it’s one thing that I feel quite a lot of followers want a reminder of as a result of I beat you over the pinnacle with it each season, however folks don’t appear to take heed to me.
It’s essential to hear it straight from the contestants and Grant and Juliana did an interview with Jessica Rad snigger from glamour.com and she requested Grant about that ultimate dialog and letting Latia communicate her thoughts earlier than he instructed her he wasn’t her man. She mentioned. Did you ever consider saying, Hey, earlier than you begin, let me let you know that you just’re not the precise one.
Not in these phrases, after all, however earlier than she poured her coronary heart out to you, did you concentrate on stopping her from letting it get that far, understanding she wasn’t the ultimate one? And Grant mentioned, after all, I thought of it a number of occasions, however the viewers must be conscious that there are different powers in play in the case of being the Bachelor.
There’s a protocol, there’s a complete crew that claims. That is the best way issues are carried out. I’m the twenty ninth bachelor. There have been quite a lot of bachelors earlier than me. I feel when you look again, you see the system of what it’s. You enable the particular person to talk after which there’s a, however I don’t know if that’s for a dramatic factor, however I do know that I did the perfect that I may.
If I may rewind, I in all probability can be a bit of extra stern and never attempt to make all people round me joyful. Translation. He needed to let Latia communicate. Backside line, we all know this. This isn’t information. I let you know this. Each season up till Joey’s season, once they had that wonky, Kelsey and Daisy arriving collectively, and Daisy had already decided in her personal head that she wasn’t being picked.
So she was principally telling Joey, you already know, thanks for the time, however I do know you’re gonna choose Kelsey within the historical past of the Bachelor. They’ve by no means let the Bachelor go to the ultimate lady’s room early or. Cease her earlier than she begins speaking on the ultimate Rose ceremony. By no means on the Bachelorette. They let ’em do it on a regular basis.
We had a string of like 5 or 6 seasons in a row the place the bachelorette actually bought to go to the man’s room the morning of or the day earlier than and say, Hey, simply to let you already know, I’m not selecting you. However on The Bachelor, I don’t know. It’s as a result of they need to embarrass the ladies. They need a extra emotional response from the ladies.
Nevertheless it’s by no means occurred. So for these saying like, and, and you already know, to not name her out, however Gabby l Nikki on Instagram tales on Monday night time completely referred to as quote unquote grant out for doing that. And principally mentioned, no means do you let that lady pour her coronary heart out to you and never inform her beforehand that she’s not the one.
And it’s identical to, come on, Gabby, you have been a part of the present. Possibly she doesn’t perceive it, even to this present day. She doesn’t perceive how this present works, however I’m sorry. It’s by no means occurred within the historical past of the present. They’ve by no means allowed the Bachelor to go to the girl’s room that he’s not gonna choose the morning of or the night time earlier than and say, I’m not selecting you.
And so they’ve by no means allowed the girl who ended up ending in second place to point out up and him cease her mid-sentence or no matter, they at all times let her communicate so the Bachelor may give his speech after which say, however. It’s at all times labored that means, and Grant answered the query precisely how he ought to have with out throwing manufacturing below the bus.
He’s principally saying, look, I needed to do what I used to be instructed. That is the best way the present works. That is what they need you to do. I want I may have been a bit of extra stern and never attempt to make all people round me joyful. That’s the strain you’re below as a lead. You’ve bought a complete crew of crew telling you what to do.
And also you’re a one man present, who, they’re doing a present about you and your love journey. You’re not gonna piss them off. You don’t need to piss them off. So he went together with it, however he went together with it, as did the earlier 28 Bachelors earlier than him all principally did the identical factor. So let’s not give Grant shit for letting Laia communicate her thoughts and him not stopping her and telling her beforehand, as a result of it’s by no means occurred within the historical past of the Bachelor.
All proper, let’s get going. Right here’s my interview with the Joe Schmo Present Ben Fr Zone. Alright, right here he’s the person of the hour. He’s the topic of the Joe Schmo Present. This season on TBS, you noticed his season come to a dramatic conclusion final night time. It’s Ben Fr zone. Ben, thanks for approaching man. Thanks for having me.
Wow, that was one hell of a journey. And earlier than we get into something, I need to say proper off the bat one thing that since I began watching the present has change into part of my life. Have you learnt any occasions simply randomly I’ve walked by my canine or simply checked out my canine and mentioned, bu he simply, for no motive by any means.
I imply, it’s unreal. Simply, and I’ll even do the signal and the canine canine has no concept why I’m doing it, however. My gosh, it’s caught in my head. Simply curious outta curiosity, as soon as you bought residence, did it ever float in your thoughts at night time? Did you ever say it to folks?
No, not actually, probably not. Nevertheless it has change into one thing of a greeting now, so yeah,
folks do exactly say
Shaya ho
Now, simply outta curiosity once more, for the reason that present has been airing, ’trigger clearly this was filmed.
Some time in the past, I imagine, simply primarily based on the, mm-hmm. Simply primarily based on the masks that have been being worn by manufacturing. Now that it’s airing and folks have seen it, are folks, in the event that they see you out, are they saying it to you? Are you being acknowledged if you’re out? How’s it been?
I, I’ve but to be acknowledged out and about.
Yeah. So, however I imply, I, I do have some dms, you already know, folks ship me messages on Instagram or Fb, however, no, no in-person interactions but.
So no person’s, no person’s stopped you and mentioned, Hey, you’re the man from the Joe Schmo present. No one but. No. No. Alright, so let’s, let’s get into it. And, you already know, I used to be gonna ask you, I imply, the those who have contacted you, I’ll ask you this, what’s the, what’s the primary query you might be being requested by those who possibly have reached out on dms and stuff?
What’s, what’s the primary factor they’ve been asking you? As a result of I feel it could be the identical query that I’ve, however I’m curious.
I assume, you already know, the, there’s one which’s a blanket and it’s simply, you already know, what was it like? Like
yeah,
that’s just like the generic one, however then I actually, second, second highest query is need to go to dinner. Oh,
oh, oh, actually? Okay. So girls are sliding into your dms. Received it. Received it. So mine was extra present associated as a result of I’m very within the, within the facet of this and form of the, the entire behind the scenes and the way it labored.
Mine was, was there any level in the course of the present, throughout this filming the place you actually did suppose. Man, one thing is off right here. Like I, possibly you didn’t suppose like I’m having a complete present devoted to me, however we did see that one problem the place you say, this isn’t actual. Proper. I’m being pranked when what’s his face was throwing his sneakers into the, into the wooden chipper.
Yeah. Was there, outdoors of that second, ’trigger I don’t even suppose in that second you really thought, Hey, I’m having a present made about me. That is all faux. I feel you simply form of mentioned like, wait, what? That is, this isn’t actual. Proper. Like when. Was there any level in the course of the present, like earlier than the ending, and also you have been instructed all the things that went on, did you ever, like at night time simply sitting round going, one thing’s off about all of this?
That’s, so, that’s positively one of many, you already know, larger on the record ask questions.
Yeah.
However you already know, I, I at all times say, I’m like, I, I, I felt prefer it was bizarre, you already know, I knew one thing was, I knew one thing was off. There have been moments the place I used to be like, okay, this wasn’t actual. However then, you already know, the actors and the producers and all people simply retains on retaining on.
So then I’m left on this scenario the place I’m like, you’re simply going to the subsequent one. It form of passes your mind. After which at night time, such as you mentioned, at night time, I’m considering. All technique. I imply, I used to be in it, you already know? Yeah. I used to be, I believed I used to be, you already know, the large technique man.
Yeah. You thought you have been the goat.
You thought you have been the goat is what you thought. You recognize, once I was watching and I’m sitting right here going, like, I, I, I, I don’t suppose that he, it’s very arduous to be like, oh, I do know this complete present is faux and it’s all, it’s all being made surrounding me. No one would actually start to suppose that you just would possibly query, what the hell is that this?
And. Is that this present even actual? However I don’t suppose anyone would ever come to the conclusion that everyone round me is faux. So, however when it was occurring, clearly you’re growing actual friendships, particularly with somebody like Maya Natasha, her actual title, however you already know, it’s occurring and you’re clearly eager to compete and profitable the sport.
How about when you have been eradicated and also you have been despatched to the loser’s home? Did, have been you considering like. I do know your mindset was, I have to get again in and win this competitors and get again in and try to win. However if you have been eradicated and earlier than, you already know, as you have been eradicated and despatched to the loser’s home, have been you at a degree the place you’re like, rattling, this factor’s over.
I bought, I’m not gonna win this factor. I completely thought I’m higher than all these folks and I, I believed I’d win.
Yeah. So, it took the wind outta my sails for certain. You recognize, dropping, getting eradicated. However then they took me up, they confirmed me that video that there was a loser’s loft, and I used to be like, oh, okay.
That is, I used to be, I used to be form of joyful to get to see all people once more, you already know, get at the very least that social facet.
Yeah.
However yeah, after which, then within the losers loft once they got here again in and Kat was like, you’re gonna be competing within the problem. I imply it, it actually did it. Like a wave came visiting me of hysteria.
I’m like, oh man, now, now I’m again on this factor. I gotta compete once more.
I do know folks watching at residence, since all of us are watching the present, understanding that there’s a prank being performed on you and. There’s in all probability folks sitting at residence which might be identical to, man, how’s he not catching onto this? He’s sitting, he’s sitting right here speaking to a goat on daily basis whereas everybody else is, you already know, strategizing and being instructed what the script was for that day, however the goat stuff on daily basis.
Having to movie that have been, was there any a part of you the place there’s identical to, that is the weirdest recreation present I’ve ever seen, though you hadn’t seen it because it wasn’t an actual recreation present.
Proper. So there, there have been occasions I had instructed Maya and among the different characters. I’m like this, this complete goat factor within the morning.
I feel they’re messing with me. Like, why do I’ve to, you already know, all people else will get, I believed on the time that everyone else had this carefree breakfast. Yeah. You recognize what I imply? However I used to be the one man that needed to go down and I. Care for the goat with no reward principally.
Yeah. No, it, it was simply, you already know, sitting at residence we’re identical to, ah, is that this man not selecting up on it?
However yeah, you, you wouldn’t within the second, ’trigger who would suppose that anyone would, would select this. Now, clearly that brings us again to the truth that, how outdated are you, Ben? I’m 31. You’re 31. I’m considerably older than you, however I used to be an enormous fan of the primary three seasons of the Joe Schmo Present. I’m really I’m good associates with Ingrid from season two, which occurred to be my favourite season.
I, you already know, she, I’ve talked to her about it quite a bit within the, up to now and, you already know, with, with you and also you doing this present. Clearly you in all probability by no means noticed these exhibits, however I’ll ask you. Did you ever wa, clearly you’ve in all probability possibly gone again and watched now, however have you ever ever seen, you had by no means seen any of the Joe Schmo exhibits the earlier ones,
proper?
I, I had not seen any of the Joe Schmo exhibits. No. What about it was a bit of bit too younger?
Yeah, I used to be gonna say, that’s why I requested how outdated you have been. So these have been in all probability if you have been like younger teenagers? I might suppose 13. 13, yeah. Early
teenagers. Very early teenagers,
yeah. Have you ever gone again and watched by any likelihood?
I did. I watched Matt Kennedy Gold Season. Yeah, I simply completed, gosh, a pair weeks in the past.
Oh, okay.
And season two looks as if it’s arduous to seek out.
Yeah. It’s solely, you principally must, I feel you need to Google Joe Schmo present season two on YouTube, after which it’s like. 10 completely different episodes that you just’re gonna have to look at on YouTube, however yeah.
They’re there. It’s a very humorous idea. It’s all primarily based on a faux courting present. You know the way the Bachelor and Bachelorette, I’m certain you’ve heard of these exhibits earlier than. Lap
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Yeah. Like that. Precisely. After which the third one was to do with like, that was like navy stuff or identical to a.
One thing like alongside these strains. However the second was very humorous. Only a, an overabundance of sexual innuendos.
Proper.
The courting present. I imply, it was actually, actually, very well carried out. And however so that you hadn’t seen any of these. What about jury responsibility? The one which grew to become, that, that grew to become successful the final couple years on Amazon Prime?
Yep. I’ve seen, seen it.
You probably did see that. So after, wait, did you, have you ever seen, did you, had you seen that earlier than you went and filmed Joe Chibo?
So Joe Schmo was carried out filming earlier than jury responsibility was out.
That’s proper. That’s proper. Okay. Okay. So you’ve gotten, however, however you clearly went and watched it. What did you consider jury responsibility?
Yeah, I believed it was, you already know, I believed it was good, you already know, an authentic concept. It was actually humorous. You recognize, I preferred the characters. I preferred, you already know, like I, folks with the Joe Schmo present, they identical to seeing the reactions of Matt. Yeah. And, you already know, and Ron? Sorry, it’s Ron. Yeah. Ron. Yeah, Ron.
Matt was.
Season considered one of Joe Schmo, proper? Yeah. So when, if you watched, by the best way, have you ever, have you ever ever contacted any, did you ever contact Matt attain out to him or Ronald?
No, I don’t suppose so. No, it is best to. I want to speak to among the different Joe Schmos. That’d be cool.
Yeah, no, I feel it is best to. I imply, I, I feel they might, I, I’m certain that they might reply you and simply be like, yeah, all of us went by way of this.
All of us went by way of this factor. So put up filming, all the things occurs. And we’re gonna get to the, you already know, the, the ending and the reveal and all that. However simply I need to once more, choose your mind about put up filming. Really, let’s, let’s, let’s go to the finale as soon as you discover out,
okay. It’s
all about you and also you get the $200,000 prize, proper?
And also you discovered all people else is an actor. Was there any a part of you that was upset or mad in any respect or felt betrayed?
No.
Not, not within the, within the second, like proper when it occurred? No.
Okay.
Later that night time, like once I’m alone and you already know, all of the ideas after which all of the completely different conditions that occurred, run by way of your thoughts.
You’re like, then you definitely begin to really feel a bit of bizarre after which shortly I brushed it off.
