You’re listening to the Day by day Roundup right here as a part of the Actuality. Steve Podcast, I’m your host actuality. Steve, thanks all for tuning in on this Monday. Yeah, we’re gonna go over that interview from Friday with Rachel Juarez and David Ingris. I’m gonna offer you my ideas on it now that you simply’ve listened to it and or watched it.
I’ve received a number of issues that I need to go over. We’re additionally lastly gonna get to my ideas on Kaitlyn’s podcast the place she actually revealed some particulars concerning her relationship with Jason, after which additionally Deanna Pappas’s assertion that she launched on her Instagram story on the finish of final week. We are going to get to all that momentarily.
Very first thing I need to get to with regard to Friday’s interview with David Ingris and Rachel Juarez is, effectively, how did the interview all come collectively? As a result of early final week, I used to be completely crucifying him and mainly cursing him out. Yeah, I used to be, however at no level, as I advised you. I had not had a textual content message dialog with David Ingris since December.
I had mainly stopped contacting him as a result of I used to be like, he doesn’t pay attention and there’s no cause for me to only have him on my podcast on my own. Simply wasn’t gonna go effectively, and I didn’t assume actually go effectively for me ’trigger I can’t debate him in the case of authorized stuff. My entire challenge with him was his habits, his on-line habits, and I introduced it up within the podcast on Friday.
So the one cause him and I got here in touch final week was after the video he launched with Laura, when you watch that video, he stated my identify 3 times. So I texted him for the primary time since final, I feel it was December twelfth, was the date I gave you. I texted him and I used to be like. Hey man. Thanks for the shout out in your podcast immediately.
Thrice. I’m glad I’m nonetheless residing in your head. One thing alongside these strains like, thanks for bringing my identify up. It was extra of a only a f you, and he stated, I don’t hearken to you. I used to be simply notified on my Google alerts that you simply talked about to me. After which we had a forwards and backwards the place. I mainly stated to him the very same factor I stated to him on Friday about how I really feel about his habits.
He’s a completely totally different individual when him and I’ve spoken over the cellphone versus when he will get in entrance of a microphone or when he blogs or when he tweets, and I stated, David, you must perceive one thing. That is what I used to be saying within the textual content message, which results in how this all happened. I mainly despatched him this lengthy textual content about, Hey, I haven’t spoken about you in 4 months.
Ever since you probably did the attraction and I’ve Rachel on, after which we had been simply ready for the Court docket of Appeals in Arizona to make a judgment. I used to be simply, I don’t discuss you, nor did I actually discuss Laura or this case. There was nothing to speak about. The very last thing we ever mentioned was after we had Rachel on and she or he broke down Jinger’s argument after which what Wooden Nick did in response, after which what Jra stated after that.
That was the final time we talked about it. I imply, possibly a sentence right here or there during the last three months since like January, one thing like that. Nevertheless it was by no means something the place I used to be dedicating hours and hours to this case. ’trigger I used to be simply ready for the court docket of appeals to make their determination. So I advised him that in a textual content.
I stated, man, I don’t discuss you. I don’t know what you assume, however I don’t actually discuss you. And it’s not like I’ve simply determined to speak about you and shit, discuss you, as a result of I simply felt prefer it and it had been a very long time. The court docket of appeals made their determination and also you misplaced once more for the Teenth time on this case.
So in fact I’m gonna convey it up. After which I texted, and it’s not like I’m bringing it up and since I Googled one thing and I feel I’m some type of lawyer, I’m not proficient in legislation in any respect. That’s why I’ve Rachel Juarez to return on to elucidate to my plenty what precisely is occurring and what precisely is gonna go down with the court docket of appeals.
I stated I’m having Rachel on Thursday. And I despatched this what final Tuesday. I stated I’m having Rachel on Thursday to go over the court docket of appeals determination, and he stated I’d love to hitch if she would really like, however I’ve to run it by Laura ’trigger he’s her lawyer. He can’t simply go on a podcast with out her permission.
Every part he does on his personal YouTube channel, it’s clearly along with her permission. However he couldn’t come on mine with out her permission. He stated, I’ll get again to you. You test with Rachel. I checked with Rachel, she stated. I assume that’d be fantastic. And inside two minutes he received again to me and stated, Laura accepted, I’m in.
And this was on Tuesday. After which I stated, can we document tomorrow? And he stated, I can. And Rachel stated she couldn’t do it till Thursday, which is why I pushed the weekly podcast again a day. In order that’s the way it got here to be. I hadn’t texted the man in 4 months, after which I mainly advised him I’m recording with Rachel this week to speak concerning the court docket of appeals determination, and he sort of invited himself on.
Now you stated, Steve, you might have stated no. Nicely, yeah, I may have, however after what you heard on Friday, why would I’ve stated no? You must perceive one thing. My entire motivation behind all of this. Was each time David Ingris has tweeted, each time he has blogged, each time he has launched a YouTube video, it’s simply him.
Yeah, he has Laura on there, however Laura simply nods her head and simply approves of all the things that he says. She doesn’t know legislation, she doesn’t know something concerning the legislation. She’s simply there as a mouthpiece to only again up what he says and approve what he says. However each time he does put out a weblog put up and each time he does put out a video, I sit there and watch it and go.
For anyone that doesn’t know legislation, they could simply say, yeah, this man’s received an incredible level. Have a look at the instances that he cited. He’s by no means been, needed to been challenged publicly since this entire case began. We’ve by no means heard him on a cellphone name going forwards and backwards with anyone. We’ve by no means heard him on a YouTube video going forwards and backwards with each anyone.
That’s why it didn’t make sense for me to have him on my podcast on my own. ’trigger I wouldn’t have been in a position to shuttle with him within the authorized division. I may inform him what I considered him as an individual and the way he’s dealt with components of the instances, however that may’ve solely have gone to date ’trigger he would’ve stated, I disagree with you, which is sort of what he stated loads on Friday.
However I wished him to go up towards any individual who would problem him on all the things that the Court docket of Attraction stated. The issues that he did within the trial. You heard Friday’s podcast. You recognize why I put Rachel on? That was the entire level as a result of I knew she is aware of extra about this case than he does as a result of she truly learn the stuff earlier than he took over and she or he is aware of legislation.
So I used to be like, that is going to reveal him. So whereas, look, when you go to my YouTube channel and also you learn the feedback, 99% of ’em are constructive and 99% of ’em are completely destroying David Jing Gris for the way he got here throughout, how he was so condescending, how he spoke right down to Rachel, how he interrupted Rachel. To not point out so many good factors that individuals who have adopted this case longer than Jers have made in these feedback.
Simply go learn the feedback on my YouTube channel. It’s 99% constructive. Now, I’m not gonna focus and spend 5 minutes speaking concerning the adverse, however the one adverse to return out of this was, Steve, why did you give this man a platform? And to me that wasn’t giving him a platform. Giving David Jinger a platform to me would’ve been him approaching with simply me.
Me simply letting him ramble, letting him lay out all his stuff and say, thanks, David. I actually respect you approaching and sharing your facet. No, no, no, no. That will be platforming him. Do you assume that he got here throughout effectively on Friday? The humorous factor is, you understand, after he recorded the interview Thursday with me or after it aired on Friday, you understand, that man went to the mirror and stated, huh, I confirmed them.
You recognize, he did. Since you see his angle. He doesn’t assume he’s flawed about something. And sure. Quite a few occasions once you felt like Rachel backed him right into a nook and Rachel challenged him on one thing that he thought he would say, huh, let’s simply transfer on. I imply, precisely what I assumed would occur occurred.
My entire factor with the way in which I dealt with it was I simply want I’d’ve shortened his solutions as a result of that first query of why did you not cross look at Clayton Took like quarter-hour. And it was a fundamental reply. Then he went to all this different stuff. That’s the place I ought to have stepped in and stated, okay, okay David, let’s get to the query at hand.
You’re going off on a bunch of tangents. That’s the place I want I’d’ve stepped in, however general, I’m glad I had him on ’trigger it achieved precisely what I assumed it might. I feel he received uncovered for not understanding loads about this case. He needed to in actual time for the primary time since he took over in March of 2024.
For the primary time, he needed to reply stuff about this case towards any individual who knew simply as a lot as he did and could be very a lot smarter than he’s in the case of the information of this case. In the case of the legislation, Rachel’s a fucking rockstar, and I feel you all noticed that on Friday. I feel a number of you knew Rachel was a rockstar from all of the occasions I had put her on my podcast up to now.
However once more, when she comes on my podcast, she’s simply saying what she believes about issues and she or he’s by no means needed to debate anyone both. However I knew her debating Jerris, when you wanna name {that a} debate. I knew him, her problem, possibly not debate, however her difficult him on instances that he cited, habits that he confirmed within the court docket habits that he has proven on-line.
I knew that she was going to prepare dinner him and she or he did. I feel one factor you additionally gotta keep in mind about this entire factor, not that anyone is siding with Gingis, however that is virtually a message to Gris, is that Gris says all these things and says, have a look at this case that I cited. I’m, I’m sorry, Rachel, that you simply don’t see it the way in which I do, however that is the way in which I interpret it.
It’s not like Rachel Juarez is the one individual that’s deciphering it a unique manner than what David Ingris is deciphering it as. You recognize, who else is deciphering it in a different way than David Ingris, judges in Arizona who even have the ultimate say on all these things. All Rachel’s doing is saying, do you see why the judges see this?
And he simply continues to mainly say, no, I don’t, I don’t perceive it. Basically, I feel we had been robbed. I feel they’re misinterpreting this. They’re this wrongly. Okay. Nicely, Mona did it wrongly. The three judges in Arizona, within the, in Tucson, Arizona, and the Court docket of Appeals apparently did it flawed.
He’s the one one which sees his facet, and but when you had been to inform him that it doesn’t appear to register. He simply thinks he’s proper about all the things and sadly he’s not. Even once they lose for rethink, and even once they lose the Arizona Supreme Court docket, and even once they lose to the US Supreme Court docket, which he’s going to file, he’s gonna say on the finish of all of this, no, I simply don’t agree with it.
I nonetheless assume I’m proper. You recognize, he’s going to, he’s not gonna be like, holy shit, I misplaced eight motions and each single judgment handed down on this case. Possibly I’m flawed. Possibly I used to be flawed about all this. He’s by no means going to say that. You recognize, this. So I don’t assume I gave him any type of platform in any way.
If I did give him a platform, it was, Hey buddy, right here’s your rope. Now go hold your self with it. To me, I sort of really feel that’s what occurred on Friday as a result of no person is taking his facet. And when you had been to say that to David Ingris after the actual fact, dude, have you ever learn the feedback? No person is like, wow, jingles got here off higher than I assumed he would.
He actually made some good factors. I already know what his reply can be to that. Ugh. It’s only a bunch of JFC those that don’t know what they’re speaking about. They don’t like me anyway, so that they’re not gonna persuade me. No, it’s not that. See, that’s what he doesn’t perceive. There are good individuals who know the legislation that don’t agree with what he stated.
Many good individuals who know the legislation that don’t agree with what he stated, however he’ll let you know he’s received a bunch of individuals on his facet that imagine that Clayton was flawed in all of this and that the judges in Arizona are flawed. In order that’s what I imply, however. You’ve seen the sentiment on-line, you’re very effectively conscious at this level.
This man was completely cooked on Friday and he didn’t know what to do. ’trigger it was the primary time he ever needed to debate any individual publicly about all the things involving this case and all these things that he’s been spewing to all people that we’re supposed to only take as 100% reality. Nicely, now you’ve received a household legislation lawyer that claims, no, no, no, no, no.
What about this? No, no, no, no, no. What about this? What about in these instances ever says what you’re claiming it does, David, and he simply didn’t have any solutions. And the factor that bothered me most likely probably the most is what number of occasions throughout that podcast did he say, inform me that I’m flawed. After which Rachel would inform him how she thought he was flawed.
After which he would simply say, Hey, I don’t agree. Nicely, then you definitely’re not likely asking her to let you know the way you’re flawed. You actually aren’t, as a result of it doesn’t sound such as you’re open to any type of dialogue on how you might probably be flawed. Though Rachel Juarez thinks you’re flawed, decide Mata thinks you’re flawed, and three judges within the Court docket of appeals in Tucson, Arizona assume you’re flawed.
That’s what I imply. So I had no downside placing him on. I’ve no downside pondering that. I had no downside pondering that this was any type of platform. It wasn’t. I knew what I used to be doing. I knew placing Rachel on with him was the good factor to do. Giving him a platform would’ve been simply me and him as a result of he would’ve spewed all his stuff out.
I wouldn’t have been in a position to combat again with any type of retorts when it got here to Rule 26 and Rule 11 and cross-examination stuff and Mike Marini and warrants and all these things. I, I don’t know that stuff. I haven’t, I adopted the case clearly from the start, however by way of particulars like that and authorized points, no, I wouldn’t have the ability to debate him.
I can solely debate him on his habits and what I consider him, of issues that he has stated and carried out on YouTube movies and in tweets, all that stuff. That’s the one cause I may go one-on-one with him. The second authorized stuff will get introduced up. I’m out. He’s going to overpower me with stuff like that.
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