SCOTT DETROW, HOST:
Flannel shirts, tortured rock stars and teenage spirit – the story of Seattle music is popular culture mythology. However the weirdest chapter of that story, the Teen Dance Ordinance, is usually missed. Whereas grunge was taking up the world, metropolis leaders imposed a regulation that criminalized younger folks going to live shows and dance golf equipment. Predictably, the youth fought again. From Member station KUOW in Seattle, “Let The Children Dance! ” is a seven-part podcast that reveals the untold battle between punks, mother and father and politicians for the soul of town.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: In the event that they wish to hold children off medication and children off, like, wandering on the streets, give us one thing to do. You realize, I am 16 years previous, and I am unable to do something. It is like, you need us to remain at dwelling and smoke weed? Or would you like us to exit and. like, dance round and have enjoyable?
DETROW: It is hosted by veteran journalist Jonathan Zwickel. On this excerpt, he describes the chaos that erupted when the police enforced the Teen Dance Ordinance, or TDO, for the primary time. The 1985 incident led to a avenue riot in a snowstorm, indignation from a well-liked TV commentator and a musical prank that grew to become an anthem.
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LOU GUZZO: Who wants teenage punk rock nightclubs anyway? In reality, who wants punk rockers? If ever the remainder of us wanted to place our foot down and say sufficient is sufficient, the time is now.
JONATHAN ZWICKEL, BYLINE: Lou Guzzo was a TV commentator for KIRO 7 Information in Seattle within the early ’80s. Guzzo was an expert curmudgeon within the vein of Andy Rooney.
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GUZZO: The world of medicine and booze made engaging by punk rock has them mesmerized.
ZWICKEL: He’d seem on air just a few occasions every week to unload no matter was on his thoughts. As we speak, Lou was significantly labored up. What caught his consideration have been the unprecedented occasions that occurred in his beloved metropolis the evening earlier than.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER #1: An grownup and 5 juveniles are in custody tonight following a melee final evening outdoors a Seattle punk Rock nightclub.
ZWICKEL: The membership was known as Gorilla Gardens. The band performing that evening was an up-and-coming act known as Circle Jerks. Seattle police shut down the present, and the following chaos could be often known as the Gorilla Gardens Riot. It was the first-ever enforcement of the TDO.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER #2: A number of police vehicles and a fireplace division automobile have been broken after the youths started throwing issues at police. However, as all the time, there are two sides to a narrative, and a few of the youngsters who have been there final evening say the police roughed them up.
ZWICKEL: The accusations of police brutality apparently escaped Lou Guzzo. Possibly he was unaware that cops had been beating the crap out of Seattle punks for years.
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GUZZO: We have now no obligation to offer youngsters nightclubs and alternatives for mayhem. In reality, I feel our obligation is simply the alternative, to stop them from ruining their lives.
ZWICKEL: The Gorilla Gardens Riot was the opening skirmish in a battle between Seattle’s music group and institution forces, a battle that waged for 17 years and, within the course of, dramatically altered the world-changing music that will quickly explode out of town.
ZWICKEL: The battle strains have been drawn. Punks have been prepared for a battle.
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UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #1: (Singing) Let the children dance, let the children dance, let the children dance.
DAVID PORTNOW: This bar was right here, nevertheless it was rather more seedy, and the…
ZWICKEL: Oh, seedier than it’s now?
PORTNOW: Far more seedy. Yeah.
ZWICKEL: Wow, ‘trigger this place is fairly…
I am standing outdoors the previous Gorilla Gardens with David Portnow. In 1985, David was a 14-year-old doorman on the membership, working after faculty virtually day-after-day. As we speak, he is our wiry excitable tour information by the Worldwide District. He is sporting a PIG Data T-shirt, merch from one of many a number of report labels he is run since he was an adolescent. The place he is stating is boarded up, painted a uninteresting grey. As we speak, it is totally silent, however again in 1984 and ’85, when it hosted stay music virtually each evening of the week, it will have been filled with music followers inside and outside.
PORTNOW: Effectively, your metalheads had lengthy hair, leather-based. There have been mohawks and stuff however not these fashionable, faux mohawks.
ZWICKEL: The membership was positioned in a constructing that after housed a two-screen Chinese language movie show. The man who ran it, Tony Chu, turned its two separate theater areas into two separate levels that ran on the identical time. The Omni Room hosted punk and new wave, and the Rock Theater was devoted to steel. Chu’s pairing of disparate musical tribes underneath one roof was dicey. Brawls between punks and metalheads have been widespread. However Chu made the genius choice to cost a single worth to entry each rooms. The rival clans could not deny a budget cowl. The end result was alchemical.
PORTNOW: Again then, in case you have been into punk, you did not get together with metalheads, and in case you have been into steel, you hated punks. That every one began altering about ’85 to ’90, and this was one of many first locations on the earth the place that passed off. They commingled, and by the commingling, a few of the bands sort of performed a crossover.
ZWICKEL: That crossover and commingling between punk and steel – the music it spawned grew to become Seattle’s signature sound. In accordance with Seattle lore, Gorilla Gardens gave the world grunge.
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GREEN RIVER: Crawling by, darkish, with streaks.
ZWICKEL: Inexperienced River is perhaps the primary band to grasp the sound. The situations essential to spawn that sort of revolutionary music are uncommon. However in these moments of revelation, younger persons are all the time current. Rock ‘n’ roll, punk, hip-hop, rave – all these groundbreaking fashionable musical kinds have been born from youth tradition.
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ZWICKEL: At their very first apply in 1984, the blokes in Inexperienced River have been barely into their 20s. They performed Gorilla Gardens a bunch of occasions, then they went on to begin Pearl Jam and Mudhoney.
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ZWICKEL: The venue was bare-bones, simply music blasting from a makeshift stage in an empty warehouse. David Portnow labored the door. Six bucks to get in – his brother was within the opening band, The Dehumanizers. The Circle Jerks had simply gone on stage. The group was dancing madly, when all of the sudden, with out warning…
PORTNOW: The police are available in with a fireman, they usually did not say something.
ZWICKEL: David and I are actually outdoors a self-storage place on the again facet of Queen Anne Hill. In 1985, it was the second iteration of Gorilla Gardens. On that snowy November evening, the cops had discovered the place, probably tipped off by a noise criticism.
PORTNOW: They only pushed me out of the way in which, they usually go straight again, they usually have been in there, I might say, about 40 seconds, after which all of the lights and the whole lot go off.
ZWICKEL: David says the cops did not announce themselves, did not say something as they burst in.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER #2: About 10:30 final evening, 20 squad vehicles and dozens of Seattle cops moved in on the Gorilla Gardens rock membership. They went inside, accompanied by the hearth marshal, with directions to close down the place and successfully cease the music. They did. However outdoors…
ZWICKEL: Virtually 30 cops, 20 squad vehicles, to tug the plug on a punk present. They plunged the room into sudden darkness and complete confusion.
PORTNOW: No one can see. No one is aware of what the hell is occurring, after which a few extra cops stopped simply got here operating in. That they had their batons out and simply began hitting folks. No one had any warning in any way.
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ZWICKEL: Punks have been used to harassment from the cops, however this was a brand new degree of violence. A whole bunch of youngsters lined one facet of the road, cops on the opposite. The children began pelting them with snowballs. Regardless of the frozen streets, Seattle TV information station KIRO 7 despatched a crew to the scene.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER #2: A number of police vehicles and a fireplace division automobile have been broken after the youths started throwing issues at police.
ZWICKEL: The issues they threw included Molotov cocktails.
PORTNOW: You realize, it was two wrongs that occurred that evening, however they hit us within the head. Effectively, guess what? You are gonna take a brick to the pinnacle.
ZWICKEL: Lou Guzzo’s rant aired the evening after the riot. He did not understand it on the time, however he was now embroiled in a punk rock artwork mission as a result of Guzzo’s spiel did not sit effectively with David Portnow and his buddies in The Dehumanizers. And the band’s bassist occurred to be an intern at KIRO TV, and he occurred to know the place KIRO saved the Guzzo recordings.
PORTNOW: He truly walked out of KIRO with the precise tapes.
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UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: Effectively, that is caught the eye of our commentator Lou Guzzo, and Lou tonight says he thinks a crackdown is so as.
GUZZO: I’ve to ask a query, Gary (ph). Who wants teenage punk rock nightclubs anyway? In reality…
ZWICKEL: The Dehumanizers took Guzzo’s voice and constructed a tune with it. They gave it a catchy title, too – “Kill Lou Guzzo.”
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GUZZO: The time is now. And the difficulty is nightclubs for youngsters, in addition to the punk rockers that they appeal to.
ZWICKEL: Hostile, but additionally tongue in cheek – the singer take photographs at Guzzo, his spouse and his daughter. David pressed 500 copies of “Kill Lou Guzzo” on 45 and launched them on his report label.
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UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #2: If that is Lou Guzzo, we hate his guts (ph).
ZWICKEL: Right here you’ve artists repurposing the sound of oppression as a sort of liberation. It is a thumb within the eye of authority, utilizing the person’s personal phrases towards it, artwork as guerrilla media warfare.
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UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #2: (Singing) Kill Lou Guzzo. Kill him now. Kill him right here. Simply kill.
ZWICKEL: You possibly can see the pendulum course of working right here. An all-ages music scene bubbles up in Seattle. Cops and politicians beat it down with the TDO. The music group was put underneath such super stress that it was sure to break down, or it was going to blow up.
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PEARL JAM: (Singing) Even circulate…
ZWICKEL: Grunge was about to take over the world. However what most music followers did not find out about Seattle and possibly would not consider is that town’s younger folks have been left outdoors trying in.
DETROW: “Let The Children Dance!” is hosted by Jonathan Zwickel and produced by KUOW in Seattle. Yow will discover all of the episodes at kuow.org or wherever you get your podcasts.
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